Re: hey, what's new in RATdom?

[jonoh1@juno.com]

Thanks for the tip, Chris. But here's the thing. I tend to be a bit of a
purist (believe me, this does not make living easy at times) and when
someone, anyone posts a notice that says we "never, ever" do this or
"constantly, incessantly" do that, it bothers me. I've found (and been
told) that my writing style has a tendency at times to sound more flip
than I actually intend because of my phraseology. (Not to say I don't
often intend to be flip.) My parents taught English (as a foreign
language if you listen to them) and a lot of their structure and style
rubbed off on me. (Yet, I can't diagram a sentence. Figure <that> out.)
I've also been told it can sound elitist, snotty, know-it-all-ish (yet I
<never> intend for that to happen) But I <do> always try to match the
'tude originally posted. He was, I believe, incorrect in saying we "only"
talk about ourselves", etc.
   I certainly didn't meant to "jump all over Bobby". And I don't really
think I did. I merely wanted to post a response to what I thought was an
ill informed opinion. But, more politic? I hope that's not what this list
is about now. Someone advise. And, please notice, I signed off with
"respectfully". This was not meant as sarcasm. And, while I agree that
his post was interesting and informative, I didn't appreciate his
completely discounting the last 3-4 years as nothing other than
self-indulgent yammering. Also, I try to use words very carefully, so if
you read my response you'll see that I wrote "if " (he) thinks that
theatre is "simply" (read: only) about gushing over a show "then" he
needs to learn more about theatre. I stand by that statement.   So,
Bobby, if you feel "jumped all over" do accept my kindest apologies. (I
tend to forget how thin-skinned many in today's theatre are - or,
perhaps, how thick-skinned I am). But if, instead, you got my point,
hazzah.
  Oh, and, um...go see The Cradle Will Rock. It's about the power theatre
used to have.
Mucho respectfully and gratefully,
Jonathan

On Thu, 16 Dec 1999 10:53:19 -0800 "chris mac" <cmacdona@adobe.com>
writes:
>Hey Jonathon:
>
>Don't jump all over Bobby. He/she has a valid point, and the 
>information
>about "INFRARED" was really good.
>
>Rather than tell Bobby off in a public forum, perhaps you should have 
>been
>more politic.
>
>This discussion list is for everyone, and if Bobby wants more earnest
>conversation about theater, or specific productions, who are you to 
>say "you
>have a great deal to learn about theater." Give me a break. Besides, 
>anyone
>who can use panegyrical in a sentence can't be all bad.
>
>RAT brethren, let's not shoot from the hip just because someone 
>disagrees
>with our point of view. This list can be tiresome, brilliant, 
>frustrating,
>and enlightening (often in the same e-mail). For instance: I never 
>would
>have heard about Sarah Kane had it not been or the RAT list.
>
>Let's keep our attitudes in check.
>
>Respectfully...ChrisMac
>----------
>>From: jonoh1@juno.com
>>To: rat-list@whirl-i-gig.com
>>Subject: Re: hey, what's new in RATdom?
>>Date: Thu, Dec 16, 1999, 10:11 AM
>>
>
>>>
>>>Theatre.  May I suggest that this list could be of some use for
>>>discussion of theatre.  I've been on for 3-4 years, and we never, 
>ever
>>>
>>>talk about theatre.
>>
>> I don't think you've been paying attention.  What an impressive 
>waste of
>> time.
>>
>>
>> We only talk about ourselves, with a vague reason
>>>
>>>that it has something to do with theatre, because, we also have an
>>>ancillary interested in theatre, but obviously not as profound and
>>>insightfull as our interest in ourselves, our sophmoric politics 
>and
>>>our
>>>stunning realization of our own self-brilliance, which no one else 
>can
>>>
>>>possibly understand...
>>
>> Speaking "ourselves" only, of course?
>>
>> This is bogus. I suggest that if someone doesn't like what they've 
>been
>> reading for the last 3-4 years they might have the good sense to get 
>off
>> the list. And I totally disagree. The people on this list, IMHO, 
>devour
>> the theatre in wonderfully, dangerous, sometimes self-indulgent and
>> ocassionally stupid ways. Not to mention baffling. But it can also
>> inspire brilliance. And if you think that "talking about theatre" 
>is
>> simply gushing over a particular production or artist you've met, 
>you
>> have a great deal to learn about the theatre. Life issues apply. 
>Settle
>> down and find the delete button.
>> Respectfully,
>> Jonathan Harris
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