Re: RAT Hello Seattle, i must be going...

[brad rothbart <scrdchao@nni.com>]

>In a message dated 12/3/99 4:28:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, scrdchao@nni.com
>writes:
>
><< >> As a protester in Seattle against the Gulf War, I can tell you that
> >> COINTELPRO  still exists in some form...
> >>
> >>  All violence was caused by the folks who later turned out to be
> >> government
> >> agents. Don't discount this possibility here.
> >>
> >> --brad
>
>  Not a claim , John, simply raising the possibility. I've been there. >>
>
>Dude.  Look at what you typed.
>"All violence was caused by the folks who later turned out to be government
>agents.(seattle druing the gulf war)"  Thats a claim.
>"Don't discount the possiblity here (seattle this week)."  That's raising the
>possiblity.
>
>"  Not a claim , John, simply raising the possibility. I've been there."  Is
>sloppy reasoning.  It's cutting back on what you said.  It's illogical.  It's
>.... come on Brad.  If you have documentation or first hand eye witness
>accounts, then say that.  If your speculating, than call it speculation.
>
>-r

 Okay rob, You're right oin this one.

Draft 2 of my note to the RAT-List ( which should replace Draft 1, draft 1
having been excised) should read:
Based on prior activist experiences while in Seattle  during the Gulf War,
Mr. Rothbart wolud like to raise the possibility with his esteemed
theatrical colleagues that the vionce attributed to "anarchists" ( of which
larger tribe the aforementioned Mr. Rothbart generally numbers himself
among, although he , himself does   not  support violence and would ,
further, like to point out that  the are as many versions of Anarchism  as
there are types of Celestial Seasonings Tea) was  in fact generated by
federal or state goverment infiltrators of said activist group . The
infiltrators were positioned carefully in the various activist  groups over
the course of the last year of planning meetings about WTO. Their sole
purpose, which they have successfully achieved, was to create riots and
riot-like conditions in the middle of an otherwise peaceful demonstration
of the WTO conference in Seatlle, thereby serving to simultaneously  shift
the tenor of the debate from the actual needs of working class people
while discrediting the movement as a whole with their extremist, violent
acts.


--brad