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Re: RAT Fwd: potlatch



Thank you, David. Much appreciated.
Jonathan

On Mon, 3 May 1999 14:57:58 EDT Lorddada9@aol.com writes:
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>when confronted with what appeared to be fire i responded with more 
>fire, 
>forgetting that water was the way to go.
>
>for those of you who care, this is a letter i sent to jonathan 
>(jonoh1@juno.com) in apology for my last posting focused at him (all 
>about 
>columbine). in addition to a "public" apology for my rash, personal 
>attack, 
>this is also, i hope, a starting point from which we may being a 
>discussion 
>of rethinking the form of theatre and it presentation.
>
>and now, ladies and gentlemen, and others, here is my apology...
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>Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:06:01 EDT
>Subject: potlatch
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>There are many times that I am wrong, and this is one of them.
>
>I went back and looked at your posts and re-read your comments. You 
>say that=20
>you were not accustomed to a newcomer deriving such assumptions 
>about=20
>yourself. At the same time, I was not used to such a greeting. Yes, 
>your=20
>comments were flip, but I took them to be more than they were. You 
>brought u=
>p=20
>many points that I do need to seriously consider in the continuation 
>of my=20
>discourse. My responses to you were harsh, ugly, and totally uncalled 
>for;=20
>and for that I am deeply sorry.
>
>I do not want to engage any further in our exchange of hostilities. I 
>starte=
>d=20
>it, and now I would like to end it. Again, I was the one that brought 
>our=20
>discussion into a personal realm. It was wrong and petty of me, and I 
>can=20
>only promise you that I won't do it again - preferring to keep the 
>rat-list =
>a=20
>forum for artistic discussion.
>
>Here are some answers to your last posting to me that I hope you take 
>well.
>
>1. Yes, I do work with children - mostly it is in the context of 
>conducting=20
>workshops for them ranging from simple voice and movement exercises, 
>to=20
>clowning, script analysis, and all sorts of other stuff.
>
>2. Yes, I do direct - I have taken a hiatus from directing from which 
>I am=20
>just now emerging. I had grown upset with most of the processes and 
>social=20
>effects of standard theatre -- believing the separation of performers 
>from=20
>spectators/audience to only reinforce the banality of everyday life no 
>matte=
>r=20
>how wonderful those few hours of magic were. I searched for something 
>more=20
>immediate, more on the level of actual dialogue between the theatre 
>makers=20
>and the accidental participants in the theatrical event.
>
>I think I have now found something that is more along the lines of 
>what I wa=
>s=20
>searching for - and I know you how you feel about art always being 
>a=20
>representation of life=85 but I have found that has not always been 
>the case=
>.=20
>There was a Russian director right after the Revolution named 
>Oklopkhov who=20
>incorporated shamanism into his performances and was able to induce 
>mass=20
>transformation in his audiences, becoming actual participants in the 
>dream o=
>f=20
>the play. Also, there was a French radical group of artists that 
>existed fro=
>m=20
>the 1950's through the 1970's named the Situationist International 
>whose=20
>entire premise was a redirection of creative energies used in creating 
>"art"=20
>into life. They were by no means a marginal group either, for they 
>were the=20
>main instigators behind the May student /worker uprising of 1968 - 
>their=20
>ideas and practice was dynamic enough to inspire a revolution based 
>on=20
>premises never before introduced to artistic or political discourses. 
>And=20
>finally, there has been a whole slew of contemporary radical writers 
>and=20
>practicing artist who base their entire work upon the ideas of the SI 
>and th=
>e=20
>anthropological view of human consciousness in pre-sedentary,=20
>pre-"civilized", states (emerging from the research presented at The 
>Man, Th=
>e=20
>Hunter symposium, Chicago 1963-66?).
>
>I mention these things because they are the foundations from which I 
>am goin=
>g=20
>to base my return to theatre, not as a "director", but as a 
>theatre-maker.=20
>Currently I am talking with a company about engaging in some 
>"theatrical=20
>actions" during Burning Man this summer, and planning is already under 
>way=20
>for me to do a similar project with a company in New York.
>
>So, there you have it. I wrote these things directly to you in hopes 
>of=20
>healing things up on a personal level. If you feel that you would like 
>me to=20
>"publicly" do so on the rat-list, then you can either forward this 
>message o=
>r=20
>write me back to let me know, and I will do accordingly. Again, I am 
>deeply=20
>sorry for my postings to you, and I offer to you my most sincere 
>apologies.
>
>David.
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