Re: RAT solipsism/vanity

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GO GIRL!!!
In a message dated 12/29/99 4:33:50 PM EST, ohbelladonna@hotmail.com writes:

>what about the radical idea of artists actually 
>  getting involved in the community? ..  Schools, adult education 
>  facilities, charities, juvenile detention facilities, churches, ...often 
screaming for >artistic/cultural/vocational activities.  And  there is often 
*pay* involved 

yes, yes, yes
And,..  fresh sit coms wouldn't have to invariably relocate from   eg. 
Milwaukee breweries  to  Hollywood  hustleries 

>  If we spent some time with non-theatrical 
>  institutions within the community, I wonder what would happen to our work? 
 
>  Perhaps some of the solipsism and vanity would disappear.  We just might 
>  create something -- not a sitcom or movie of the week -- 

Of course, this becomes a recipe for 'Artists to the country side!' Cheeng.  
But then...

>  Something truly theatrical in the sense that it is a communal expression 
of a 
>  communal need, live, in person, irreproducable, and even necessary. ... 

Yep, yep, yep, but after a while

>A little  ivory-tower time might be useful, 

At least a welcome respite.  

>We don't need to do plays all about how miserable we are.  

Preach sister,

>  joy and beauty, 
> getting kids, 
> like play, 
>increase  sales 

oops, forgive me, Donna.  I went and edited your muse to sound like a 
marketeer mystic.
I do rechew meat from the mouths of others.       muscle and morsels  too
peggy


>  >From: Rebecca Gray <smith@avn.com>
>  >Reply-To: rat-list@whirl-i-gig.com
>  >To: rat-list@whirl-i-gig.com
>  >Subject: RAT solipsism/vanity
>  >Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 11:16:28 -0700
>  >
>  > >done.  "There's room for everything," I say cheerfully through tight 
>  >teeth.
>  > >But I see an awful lot of theatre that might as well be
>  >
>  >done in an isolation tank; in a bedroom, in a bathroom, in a more
>  >appropriate venue for masturbation
>  >
>  >doesn't the box office serve to keep performers/performance groups,
>  >notoriously (and sometimes beautifully, sure) self-absorbed, "honest"? OK
>  >the money encourages commoditization = commercialization = sell out (hmm)
>  >BUT THERE ARE TWO SIDES to the coin, ain't that the saw
>  >
>  >people will come. People, and not just friends from your acting class or
>  >your extended family, will come and /give/ when you /give/ them
>  >(what is it we give? the touchstone manifest, the safari of the soul,
>  >ENTERFUCKINGTAINMENT? WHAT'S SO WRONG with entertainment???!!!!)
>  >(/why/ is it that /artists/--and art--are--are expected to be--/tortured/
>  >"have you ever seen a picture of jesus laughing/do you think he had a
>  >beautiful smile/a smile that healed" etc. is pain really the only gauge of
>  >worth ? for too many actors it is that's why there's BOX OFFICE to pull 
the
>  >introspector out of her own little hell and into the world)
>  >(a world that deserves entertainment)
>  >
>  >If we x out the Exchange, we (can't help but) lose contact, in my opinion,
>  >with theater's nascent condition and real significance: The Church for the
>  >Expression of the evermorevaluable Understanding of what it is to /be/ 
here
>  >
>  >
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