Re: RAT "at least the trains ran on time"

["David Sinclair" <mal_occhio@hotmail.com>]

it is now 6pm PST... by the gaps of activity on the list since it was 
announced, it is safe to say that most rats (save matt, amy, john, and brad) 
shut up and went back to work.

david.


>From: "David Sinclair" <mal_occhio@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: rat-list@whirl-i-gig.com
>To: rat-list@whirl-i-gig.com
>Subject: Re: RAT "at least the trains ran on time"
>Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 17:48:18 PST
>
>
>     The relationship between people and represention of power is the same
>as the relationship between the audience and the hero -- its a vicarious
>experience through mediation. Voting is like going to the supermarket and
>having the choice between paper and plastic. You may get the bay you 
>wanted,
>but the supermarket remains...
>
>     ...leaching the money that you recieved in an unequal exchange for the
>leaching of your daily energies...
>
>     There is a story of a man who was being ushered off to the gas
>chambers. He happened to notice that one of the nazi guards was a person
>with whom he had gone to school. The guard noticed his old friend and said,
>"They gave me and they can do anything they want to with me"...
>
>     ...perhaps for our day and age, the guard should say, "I have a roof
>over my head now. i'm just doing my job. Please don't take this 
>personally."
>
>     Mr. Mullin is right to assume that his words have no power to 
>influence
>others when he accuses that his sentiments were taken for a irresistable
>command. Mr. Mullin is also wrong to assume that his failure to recognize
>the role of immediate contestation against the institutions of social
>oppression excuses him from being thier apologist...
>
>     ...to remain neutral is to side with the agressor; boredom is
>counter-revolutionary...
>
>     'The art of the future will either be the overthrow of daily 
>situations
>or it will be nothing.' Since the inception of his slogan, and its betrayal
>by those for whom the revolution of everyday life proved to be too much of 
>a
>severe hardship for the comfort of thier thier slavish and habitual
>existence, theatre and its most vocal advocates have been less than 
>nothing.
>
>     Americans do not hate artists, they have contempt for them. The
>continuation of this thread only reinforces the banality for which most
>Americans, unable to express thier own sentiments, hold us responsible.
>
>david.
>
>>From: jonoh1@juno.com
>>Reply-To: rat-list@whirl-i-gig.com
>>To: rat-list@whirl-i-gig.com
>>Subject: Re: RAT "at least the trains ran on time"
>>Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 16:34:01 -0800
>>
>>A person's relationship to politics is exactly like their relationship to
>>porn.  They may say one thing, but in the privacy of their home/voting
>>booth, they may say another. I left NYC when the big Guido started
>>replacing Dicks with Mickey. Made me sad. And not a little frightened.
>>Tada,
>>Jonathan
>>
>>On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 16:23:33 -0700 Rebecca Gray <smith@avn.com> writes:
>> >i work for a trade publication for the adult industry, so in alotta
>> >ways I have witnessed the de-ffects of Bad GiuGiu for some time now,
>> >as
>> >he has pushed local legit adult businesses into extinction during the
>> >NYC Cultural Purge, setting a precedent for other cities across the
>> >nation to follow suit. And I imagine there's lots of liberal-minded
>> >folx out there, otherwise enraged by Bad GiuGiu's shenanigans, who
>> >are
>> >given pause here and sortof feel like Oh that porno stuff, that's a
>> >horse of a different color. But it's not. it's an incontrovertible
>> >sanction on what the vast NYC community can and cannot
>> >read/watch/say/do.
>> >
>> >
>> >What i really want to say in this post, however, is that Giuliani's
>> >not
>> >The Problem, or he's just a man. He's emblematic, ain't he?... the
>> >spearhead for what must be a humongous number of silent, unseen
>> >Others
>> >who voted for his platform/agree with these actions/support these
>> >ideas. and I seem--and a bunch of people who have posted recently
>> >seem--to be absolutely unconnected with this group. who are they?
>> >Where
>> >are they hiding? do they go to theater/do they have a connex. to the
>> >arts community at all? Do they stuff the ballot boxes? Do they
>> >constitute a majority or were otherwise sane people hoodwinked into
>> >voting this system in? What, exactly, is going on here and how can it
>> >be so faceless? Are we all that out of touch/stratified? Have I met
>> >the
>> >radicals and is them me?
>> >
>> >
>> >show thyself giuliani supporter and explain! explain!
>> >
>> >
>> >shutting up and getting back to work
>> >
>> >XOX
>> >
>> >
>>
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