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RE: RAT ANTI-NATO-ART



I don't know. I wish I did. Six Moving Artists had a long debate about this
the other night (at a bar, naturally). Two of us felt that this was, in our
lifetimes, the equivalent of the Holocaust and we didn't want to feel that
nothing would be done. Two felt more how I think John feels -- pull out and
let them sort it out themselves (killing each other) because they all hate
each other. Two didn't know WHAT they wanted -- except for it to end. This
issue is very present on my mind.

That's why I've written the following poem:

Mr. Milosevitch
Don't be a bitch
Please don't kill them all.
I'm asking you pretty please
With sugar on top
Let's have the killing just stop.

Dear Mr. NATO
I don't know why you exist
Didn't the other side quit?
Put away your tanks
We'll all say thanks
And present you with flowers and gifts.


And then I sent this poem everywhere! I'm hoping that's the end of this
conflict.

Lee

At 4:46 PM 4/14/99, Werner Trieschmann wrote:
>OK, I'll bite. What should be done about ethnic cleansing? Sorry, I hate those
>two words. So neat. What should about the slaughter and dislocation of the
>Albanian population?
>
>Werner
>_______________________________________________________________________________
>
>>From: rat-list@whirl-i-gig.com on Wed, Apr 14, 1999 4:41 PM
>>Subject: RE: RAT ANTI-NATO-ART
>>To: 'rat-list@whirl-i-gig.com'
>>
>>STATEMENT of OPINION
>>
>>Anyone who believes that bombing a country because the leader of that
>>country is a "evil man" watches too much American Television and believes
>>too much of what they read.
>>
>>Anyone who thinks that our actions in the Balkans are well thought out is
>>not really paying attention.
>>
>>Anyone who thinks that bombing the Balkans is not similar to throwing a lit
>>firecracker into a gunpowder factory doesn't know enough history.
>>
>>Anyone who thinks that people will respond with contrition when they are
>>being bombed should do a little "what if they bombed my street" thought
>>experiment
>>
>>Anyone who thinks that Russia is a stable, disarmed, backward place that
>>longs for KFC franchises and will never get all nationalistic about NATO
>>bombing an ally just weeks after NATO promised never to do that is living in
>>a happy friendly fantasy
>>
>>Anyone who thinks there is no way any of this could escalate to the point
>>where bombs are actually dropped on American soil should think
>>again....because it might....and if it doesn't...if it doesn't and you
>>support destruction of the infrastructure of another country in part BECAUSE
>>you're sure there will be no repercussions for you and yours than you are
>>not really thinking like a responsible citizen of the planet
>>
>>Everyone who thinks this way has a lot of company so don't bother getting
>>defensive. It's just one man's view.
>>
>>I do wonder why so many felt compelled to rain on Brad's peace march with a
>>ton of sardonic bricks. What set off the alarms?
>>
>>
>>Mmmmmm
>>John
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From:        Werner Trieschmann [SMTP:werner_trieschmann@adg.ardemgaz.com]
>>> Sent:        Wednesday, April 14, 1999 1:55 PM
>>> To:  rat-list@whirl-i-gig.com
>>> Subject:     RE: RAT ANTI-NATO-ART
>>>
>>> Lee,
>>> >
>>> What are you doing? You'll upset all the touchy feely theatre people who
>>> want
>>> violence to stop just because they're upset. What's the matter with you?
>>> Don't
>>> you understand? Who has time to figure out the politics or wonder if this
>>> Slobodon is really an evil guy? We want to make theater and love and not
>>> be
>>> bothered with messy details!
>>> >
>>> >Werner
>>> __________________________________________________________________________
>>> _____
>>>
>>> >From: rat-list@whirl-i-gig.com on Wed, Apr 14, 1999 2:07 PM
>>> >Subject: Re: RAT ANTI-NATO-ART
>>> >To: rat-list@whirl-i-gig.com
>>> >
>>> >Hey! Did everybody hear? They got Brad's letter and they STOPPED! Way to
>>> >go, Brad! Thanks, man! Here we all thought they were looking for a
>>> >political solution, or just to gain territory outright, but no, they just
>>> >needed a firm "please stop" plea. Phew. Glad that's over. Wish Brad had
>>> >been around to dash these letters off to Hitler, Stalin, Genghis Khan, et
>>> >al.
>>> >
>>> >Lee
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>> I am an American theatre-artist and I feel very strongly that the NATO
>>> >>> bombing  of your country is wrong.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> More than that, as a pacifist artist, I want all the killing to stop,
>>> on
>>> >>> all sides. Kosovo, Sarajevo, Mostar,  all of it.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Killing by Serbs, Croats, Muslims, Americans, Brits, -- it doesn't
>>> >>> matter who did what to whom when and where. It must stop now!
>>> >>>
>>> >>> An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Please remember, here in America as ( I would assume)  in Yugoslavia,
>>> >>> the people  do not  necessarily agree with  the actions of their
>>> >>> government.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> As artists, can we go beyond the artificial construction of
>>> governments,
>>> >>> (all governments) and stand together for peace throughout the world?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> That is my fondest hope.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Namaste,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Brad Rothbart
>>> >>>
>>> >>> American Theatre Artist
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >><!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
>>> >><html>
>>> >>&nbsp;Folks,
>>> >><p>I found&nbsp;&nbsp; the following URL&nbsp; on the web, and it jarred
>>> >>me enough&nbsp; to write a letter which&nbsp; I reprinted below. I urge
>>> >>everyone to take a look at this site.
>>> >><p>-brad
>>> >><p><A
>>> >>HREF="http://www.novisad.org.yu/index.htm">http://www.novisad.org.yu/ind
>>> ex.
>>> >>htm</A>
>>> >><br>&nbsp;
>>> >><br>&nbsp;
>>> >><blockquote TYPE=CITE>
>>> >><pre>I am an American theatre-artist and I feel very strongly that the
>>> NATO
>>> >>bombing&nbsp; of your country is wrong.
>>> >>
>>> >>More than that, as a pacifist artist, I want all the killing to stop, on
>>> >>all sides. Kosovo, Sarajevo, Mostar,&nbsp; all of it.
>>> >>
>>> >>Killing by Serbs, Croats, Muslims, Americans, Brits, -- it doesn't
>>> >>matter who did what to whom when and where. It must stop now!
>>> >>
>>> >>An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.
>>> >>
>>> >>Please remember, here in America as ( I would assume)&nbsp; in
>>> Yugoslavia,
>>> >>the people&nbsp; do not&nbsp; necessarily agree with&nbsp; the actions
>>> of
>>> their
>>> >>government.
>>> >>
>>> >>As artists, can we go beyond the artificial construction of governments,
>>> >>(all governments) and stand together for peace throughout the world?
>>> >>
>>> >>That is my fondest hope.
>>> >>
>>> >>Namaste,
>>> >>
>>> >>Brad Rothbart
>>> >>
>>> >>American Theatre Artist
>>> >>
>>> >></pre>
>>> >></blockquote>
>>> >>
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