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Re: RAT Gore, gosh darnit!
I am not afraid to vote for Nader, but I am concerned about the nomination
of justices to the Supreme Court. There are several justices who are over
seventy, and there will probably be several open spaces on the Court during
the next administration. The court already has leanings to the right - a few
Bush appointees will certainly swing the balance toward conservative
rulings.
We are talking 30-40 years of judicial rulings here. Roe vs. Wade, and other
'liberal' rulings will certainly come under attack, and indeed may be
overturned, to say nothing of abortion rights and environmental issues.
Perhaps this e-mail smacks of fear, but given a very tight race, I consider
a vote for Gore, a direct vote against Bush. I think, hope, that Gore will
appoint more liberal justices to the court. I think Nader would make even
stronger appointments, but he ain't gonna win.
Thanks for reading.
...C
> From: Laura Winton <fluffysingler@prodigy.net>
> Reply-To: rat-list@whirl-i-gig.com
> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 18:47:17 -0400 (EDT)
> To: rat-list@whirl-i-gig.com
> Subject: Re: RAT Gore, gosh darnit!
>
> One of the reasons that an independent can't win the White House is people's
> FEAR. Just like this conversation. There will NEVER be a Republican that
> is acceptable to progressives. Thus, every election there will be the alarm
> sounded--if you vote for X you give the election to the Republicans. The
> same scare tactics go on throughout the mainstream as well as on lists like
> this. It's not necessarily that people don't want things to change. They
> are scared away from trying anything new. The bottom line is that at some
> point, you start voting for the candidate you MOST WANT, not against the one
> you least want. It will take time for a third party to pick up steam and be
> viable, and if everyone keeps shying away from third parties out of fear,
> then they'll never get off the ground. A vote for Gore is a vote of fear in
> the here and now. A vote for Nader is a vote toward the future--a small
> step toward breaking the hegemony of the two parties.
>
> I've said it before: Afraid to vote for Nader? Your hand trembles when it
> veers away from the democrat lever? Fine. Go out and recruit 5 or 10
> NONVOTERS to vote for Nader. Your vote for the lesser evil is intact and
> you have still made an investment in the future.
>
> In the meantime, work for campaign finance reform, the abolition of the
> electoral college and a change in the election laws toward 3rd parties. The
> time to change this debate rule was 2 or 3 years ago--not two months before
> the debate. Whatever you decide to do in six weeks--There are four years
> after that to try to make this thing a little fairer if you REALLY feel that
> strongly about it.
>
> As for Gore selling out the Left Wing--that is completely impossible. At no
> time was Gore ever a member of the Left Wing of the Democratic Party and any
> Left Wingers who imagined that Gore was on their side were simply
> delusional. (There's an LSD/flashback joke in here somewhere . . . feel
> free to go after it). You can't sell out someone you never belonged to.
>
> Or something.
>
>
>
> ------Original Message------
> From: "Glen-Skip- Newell" <skipworthy@hotmail.com>
> To: rat-list@whirl-i-gig.com
> Sent: October 12, 2000 10:22:17 PM GMT
> Subject: Re: RAT Gore, gosh darnit!
>
>
>
> Myself I don't like ANY of the choices for Pres, and completely disagree in
> principal with how the office itself is being treated (more on that another
> time.)
>
> Bush is clearly not an option- this we all ( I think ) agree on- for so many
> reasons ( including the fact that he's not even HALF the man that his Dad
> was, nor even as good as his running mate. Gore not only shares the same
> bed, but as it's been pointed out, IS JUST LIKE CLINTON EXCEPT WILIER...he's
> a snake, something that has become clear to me watching the debates. Did you
> hear the position he took on Iraq? could he have betrayed the left wing any
> more ruthlessly? And did you even once hear him utter any words of support
> for the environment ( without being directly confronted) or the Arts? Al is
> just more of the same but worse.
>
> Can Nader Win? could any third party candidate ? of course not. at least not
> in this century; for the same reason we won't probably see a woman in the
> white house, and it has NOTHING to do with truth or competence. Most
> Americans simply don't want things to change-This is how these guys (one
> from Yale and One from Harvard, and both filthy rich with family money)stay
> in power. Homer LIKES his SUV and his Cable TV and his cheesburgers- even if
> he DOES vote democrat and send a yearly check to greenpeace.
>
> The entire Radical movement (anarchists, greens, etc) exists because there
> are some who WILL vote for a guy like Nader, in the faith that someday we
> will have justice- maybe not now, but someday. YOu hae to believe that
> change is both necessary and worthwhile, and that's different and it takes
> courage and that's why you should vote your conscience and NOT for the guy
> most likely to win.
>
> Personally, I'm getting behind the Hagbard Celine/Dirk Gently ticket.
>
> Skip
>
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> Laura Winton
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