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Re: RAT Fwd: ZNet Update / Arrestees in Philly, Action Urgently Needed

My last post was not to meant to imply that I haven't seen intelligent 
debate here, just to clarify.


>From: "Donna Sherritt" <ohbelladonna@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: rat-list@whirl-i-gig.com
>To: rat-list@whirl-i-gig.com
>Subject: Re: RAT Fwd: ZNet Update / Arrestees in Philly, Action Urgently 
>Needed
>Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 15:11:03 CDT
>
>It's dangerous to become careless about what you say just because you think
>you probably won't offend anyone.  That reminds me of the old joke, "How
>does every racist joke start?  By looking around first."  And there are to
>my knowledge some who hold more conservative viewpoints on this list,
>lurking or not.  I'd really like to see some intelligent debate here.  I
>haven't made up my mind about who to vote for yet.  I want to know what
>people think.  Not what people who can't think have to say.  Idiotic and
>violently-natured jokes aimed at politicians who, for better or worse, are
>trying to make a change (no, that was not a defense of Buchanan) are a 
>waste
>of time on this list.
>
>
>>From: "Laura Winton" <fluffysingler@prodigy.net>
>>Reply-To: rat-list@whirl-i-gig.com
>>To: <rat-list@whirl-i-gig.com>
>>Subject: Re: RAT Fwd: ZNet Update / Arrestees in Philly, Action Urgently
>>Needed
>>Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 18:56:53 -0500
>>
>>I just see it as blowing off a little steam among friends.  It's not like
>>there are too many repubs on here that will be offended.  I don't take
>>those statements too seriously, nor do I disapprove of them.  A little
>>hyperbole gets the blood going once in a while.
>>
>>I say spew.
>>
>>Laura Winton
>>fluffysingler@prodigy.net
>>www.karawane.org
>>
>>"Those poor kids.  So young.  So nauseous."
>>--Krusty the Klown Telethon for Motion Sickness
>>
>>     Speaking of spouting rhetoric, these references to shooting
>>politicians, or
>>     to them being "corpse-fuckers" are "cute", as in "childish".  I'm not
>>     necessarily sold on the agendas of either the Republican or 
>>Democratic
>>     parties, so this kind of hyperbole really casts a shadow of
>>dismissability
>>     over anything else you say.  It's fine if you're preaching to the
>>choir and
>>     you want a few laughs, but you didn't win me over.
>>
>>
>>     >From: Audie McCall <audiemccall@yahoo.com>
>>     >Reply-To: rat-list@whirl-i-gig.com
>>     >To: rat-list@whirl-i-gig.com
>>     >Subject: Re: RAT Fwd: ZNet Update / Arrestees in Philly, Action
>>Urgently
>>     >Needed
>>     >Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 10:12:53 -0700 (PDT)
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >I won't get into the inherent unfunniness of joking
>>     >about putting a bullet in Buchannan's head, especially
>>     >since he's the least significant factor in the race
>>     >and siphons votes only from Bush.
>>     >
>>     >But I will stand up and say there are many good
>>     >reasons for voting for Ralph Nader beyond hoping to
>>     >put him in the Oval Office, though that's good enough
>>     >for me.
>>     >
>>     >1)  If Nader takes 5% (I think that's the right
>>     >figure) of the vote in November, then the Green Party
>>     >gets matching funds in 2004, a strong step towards
>>     >making it a viable third party.
>>     >
>>     >2)  In a recent poll tracking the final four, Bush,
>>     >Gore, Nader and Buchannan.  Bush took something like
>>     >48%, Gore 42%, Nader 7%, and Buchannan 3%.  Then
>>     >another poll was run with just the two front runners.
>>     >It wound up being something like Bush 55% and Gore
>>     >45%.  In other words, without the alternatives, Bush's
>>     >lead SPREAD!  So don't believe the hype about throwing
>>     >your vote away.
>>     >
>>     >3)  Gore is as bought and sold by Corporate America as
>>     >Bush, perhaps more so.  Who's administration pushed
>>     >through NAFTA and Free Trade for China?  It's
>>     >corporate power that you should really fear, not a few
>>     >Right Wing wackos.
>>     >
>>     >4)  Nader's policies make SENSE.  They are clear,
>>     >congent, incisive.  Read up on them.  And you will
>>     >WANT to finally stand up and be counted FOR something
>>     >for a change, instead of against.
>>     >
>>     >Go NADER!
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > > Daylight Time,
>>     > > catieaph@hotmail.com writes:
>>     > >
>>     > > << what can we do with the two alternatives (running
>>     > > for president) at this
>>     > >  point?  I'm asking so that I may know. >>
>>     > >
>>     > > well, one, put a bullet in pat buchannan's head and,
>>     > > two, if you absolutly
>>     > > can't vote for gore, you should vote for nader.
>>     > > but, nadar can't win and
>>     > > bush can.  so every vote for gore counts.  no, he's
>>     > > not the greatest, but he
>>     > > beats the shit out of another republikan amerika.
>>     >
>>     >
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