Re: RAT Fwd: ZNet Update / Arrestees in Philly, Action Urgently Needed

["Donna Sherritt" <ohbelladonna@hotmail.com>]

It's dangerous to become careless about what you say just because you think 
you probably won't offend anyone.  That reminds me of the old joke, "How 
does every racist joke start?  By looking around first."  And there are to 
my knowledge some who hold more conservative viewpoints on this list, 
lurking or not.  I'd really like to see some intelligent debate here.  I 
haven't made up my mind about who to vote for yet.  I want to know what 
people think.  Not what people who can't think have to say.  Idiotic and 
violently-natured jokes aimed at politicians who, for better or worse, are 
trying to make a change (no, that was not a defense of Buchanan) are a waste 
of time on this list.


>From: "Laura Winton" <fluffysingler@prodigy.net>
>Reply-To: rat-list@whirl-i-gig.com
>To: <rat-list@whirl-i-gig.com>
>Subject: Re: RAT Fwd: ZNet Update / Arrestees in Philly, Action Urgently 
>Needed
>Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 18:56:53 -0500
>
>I just see it as blowing off a little steam among friends.  It's not like 
>there are too many repubs on here that will be offended.  I don't take 
>those statements too seriously, nor do I disapprove of them.  A little 
>hyperbole gets the blood going once in a while.
>
>I say spew.
>
>Laura Winton
>fluffysingler@prodigy.net
>www.karawane.org
>
>"Those poor kids.  So young.  So nauseous."
>--Krusty the Klown Telethon for Motion Sickness
>
>     Speaking of spouting rhetoric, these references to shooting 
>politicians, or
>     to them being "corpse-fuckers" are "cute", as in "childish".  I'm not
>     necessarily sold on the agendas of either the Republican or Democratic
>     parties, so this kind of hyperbole really casts a shadow of 
>dismissability
>     over anything else you say.  It's fine if you're preaching to the 
>choir and
>     you want a few laughs, but you didn't win me over.
>
>
>     >From: Audie McCall <audiemccall@yahoo.com>
>     >Reply-To: rat-list@whirl-i-gig.com
>     >To: rat-list@whirl-i-gig.com
>     >Subject: Re: RAT Fwd: ZNet Update / Arrestees in Philly, Action 
>Urgently
>     >Needed
>     >Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 10:12:53 -0700 (PDT)
>     >
>     >
>     >I won't get into the inherent unfunniness of joking
>     >about putting a bullet in Buchannan's head, especially
>     >since he's the least significant factor in the race
>     >and siphons votes only from Bush.
>     >
>     >But I will stand up and say there are many good
>     >reasons for voting for Ralph Nader beyond hoping to
>     >put him in the Oval Office, though that's good enough
>     >for me.
>     >
>     >1)  If Nader takes 5% (I think that's the right
>     >figure) of the vote in November, then the Green Party
>     >gets matching funds in 2004, a strong step towards
>     >making it a viable third party.
>     >
>     >2)  In a recent poll tracking the final four, Bush,
>     >Gore, Nader and Buchannan.  Bush took something like
>     >48%, Gore 42%, Nader 7%, and Buchannan 3%.  Then
>     >another poll was run with just the two front runners.
>     >It wound up being something like Bush 55% and Gore
>     >45%.  In other words, without the alternatives, Bush's
>     >lead SPREAD!  So don't believe the hype about throwing
>     >your vote away.
>     >
>     >3)  Gore is as bought and sold by Corporate America as
>     >Bush, perhaps more so.  Who's administration pushed
>     >through NAFTA and Free Trade for China?  It's
>     >corporate power that you should really fear, not a few
>     >Right Wing wackos.
>     >
>     >4)  Nader's policies make SENSE.  They are clear,
>     >congent, incisive.  Read up on them.  And you will
>     >WANT to finally stand up and be counted FOR something
>     >for a change, instead of against.
>     >
>     >Go NADER!
>     >
>     >
>     > > Daylight Time,
>     > > catieaph@hotmail.com writes:
>     > >
>     > > << what can we do with the two alternatives (running
>     > > for president) at this
>     > >  point?  I'm asking so that I may know. >>
>     > >
>     > > well, one, put a bullet in pat buchannan's head and,
>     > > two, if you absolutly
>     > > can't vote for gore, you should vote for nader.
>     > > but, nadar can't win and
>     > > bush can.  so every vote for gore counts.  no, he's
>     > > not the greatest, but he
>     > > beats the shit out of another republikan amerika.
>     >
>     >
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