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Re: RAT THE SUPERBOWL?



Well, since I wasn't clear, what I meant to say was this:
I don't think that artists need to live in some sophmoric cliche (ie lattes 
and cigarettes-- though both are lovely), in fact to the contrary.  And I 
certainly don't think we should always assume we're going to be poor and at 
the mercy of our respective corrupt governments for hand outs, but I DO 
think that the list below (fashion week in NY, Golden Globes, the GAP, "hot" 
writers in Hollywood, etc) represent the most vile and insidious corporate 
packaging plans possible. They exist as an opportunity to make somebody a 
whole bunch of money. And so, I think whenever possible we should suspect 
the motives of corporate packaging.  And sorry Yanks, to me, the Superbowl 
is nothing more than packaging, packaging, packaging.  In my time in the 
States, I watched many highschool and college football games and 
appreciated, no loved the game.  And in my own country I'm an Arsenal fan 
through and through, make no mistake.
But I guess my question was this -- isn't this really a tremendous 
opportunity to do more than talk about what corporate packagers want us to 
talk about?  That's all.
I wasn't too surprised to get alot of Yank "In this country we have 
something known as free speech"  rhetoric back--What I meant to do was 
question the validity and the necessity of that particular topic in this 
particular forum.
As someone who spent more than 15 years in mainland China, I am fully aware 
of what it really means to have freedom of speech taken away.  Please don't 
be sloppy.  It's an overused term in both the US and the UK.  Just be aware 
of what it actually means.
So I seem to have made people mad-- frankly don't care.  I'mm going to 
change the subject and see if anyone wants to come with me...
So here's a question...who thinks that the advant of Dance Theater as (ie 
Pina Bausch) and contemporary Opera (ie Peter Sellars)  are going to 
actually, radically change the way we do theater?  And I don't mean simply 
adding more music and dance to what we do.. but rather will we begin to 
conceptualize differently?  will we begin to think in terms of a larger 
canvas when we make stuff?
I hope to God so.


>From: TimNGail@aol.com
>Reply-To: rat-list@whirl-i-gig.com
>To: rat-list@whirl-i-gig.com
>Subject: Re: RAT THE SUPERBOWL?
>Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:21:23 EST
>
>In a message dated 02/01/2000 4:43:43 PM Pacific Standard Time,
>luciemanheim@hotmail.com writes:
>
> > Why don't we talk about the Golden globes next?
> >  Thenw e can talk about fashion week in New York.
> >  Then we can talk about really "hot" writers in Hollywood.
> >  Then we can talk about really cool tv shows.
> >  Then we can talk about what we want to buy at the GAP.
> >  Then we can talk about Pokeman.  Or teletubbies.
> >  Or we can just go to e online.
>
>hmmm.... last time I checked, the theatre I was working on had nothing to 
>do
>with people sitting around, stroking their goatees smoking unfiltered 
>Luckies
>and sipping a latte while trying to pontificate about grand theories....
>although, that may not be a bad idea....
>
>I'm much more interested in work that sprouts from conversations about
>fashion, or hot writers in Hollywood (if anyone is interested in reading 
>it,
>Gabriel and I are collaborating on a piece called OPTION dealing with this
>very thing... well, kind of...), or Telletubbies, or Taymor-esque puppets
>making an appearance at the halftime show of the friggin Super Bowl (don't
>know if I really liked the idea, or if I thought it was an 
>ABC/Disney/Eisner
>slanderous capitalist machine in high gear... then again, whaddaya want 
>from
>the Super Bowl?) or WHATEVER....
>
>Creation comes from the act of living.  And discussing living.  Although, I
>don't knock whatever may work for you.
>
>Gosh... that was deep.... well, gotta get back to my smoke and my latte....
>
>tim
>
>P.S. - who KNEW there were any "theatre types" willing to come out of the
>closet and admit they watch football!  Testify!  Hallelujah!
>
>P.P.S. - Sorry... the clarification should be "American football"... :)

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